Quick Political Thoughts

It seems like liberals. moderates and the main stream media is doing everything in its power to admonish Republicans to accept the Mormon faith of Mitt Romney.  In fact, it is bigoted not to call Mormons Christian.  However, does anyone remember just a few years ago these same groups were calling Mormons religious fanatics for their vocal opposition to homosexual marriage in California?

Herman Cain announced that he will be lightening his campaign load.  Why?  Because he has been flip-flopping all over the place and mis-speaking.  His excuse has been that he is tired and over-scheduled.  Well, Mr. Cain, if you can’t handle the campaign trail, what would you do if you actually got the job?  Maybe take a deep breath borrow one of Mark Block’s cigarettes…

After hearing Paul Ryan speak this past week, I’m certian this man should be President.  Should he ever run, he has my support.

I’m still not 100% sure who to support in the Wisconsin Senate race, but I think .  Tommy Thompson is not an option in my mind.  Jeff Fitzgerald seems like a guy I could get behind, but I’m not sure anyone with the name Fitzgerald can win a general election at this point.  That basically leaves Mark Neumann.  I didn’t vote for him for governor, but since then the guy is looking pretty good to me.  If I ha to vote now, he would get my support.  But, I still be convinced to go in another direction.  Any thoughts?


The Winner of Tonight’s Debate Was…

I must admit, I love debate season!  So, who won tonight’s Washington Post/Bloomberg GOP Presidential debate?  I think it’s a toss-up.  I want to say Herman Cain. I think I’m beginning to like this guy.  I’m not quite sure if I’m ready to jump on board the Cain train just yet…  He obviously had the most at stake tonight.  This was his first debate since gaining top-tier status.  I think after tonight, there’s no question he has earned this status.  He was questioned and attacked, and not only kept his ground, but got everyone talking about his plan.  9-9-9 is better known than he is.  Everyone mentioned it during the debate.  However, where the Cain train ran off the tracks was on his view of the federal reserve.  Cain had two secret candidates for the fed chair position – but refused to name either.  That just sounded odd.  The other major problem was his embrace of Alan Greenspan.  I understand loyalty (Cain once worked for the man), but Ron Paul was right – Greenspan was a disaster. 

It pains me to say it, but I think Romney narrowly edges out Cain as the winner tonight.  Any reader of this blog knows that I do not like Mitt Romney.  I will not vote for the man – I just don’t trust him.  But, I cannot deny the man did well tonight.  He weathered every attack against him and never lost his cool, smooth demeanor.  The man looked presidential and spoke with confidence.  No one was able to catch up off his guard or rattle his cage.  Romney knew what he was talking about with depth and candor – although he wasn’t able to name all 59 points of his economic plan (my favorite exchange of the night!).

Rick Perry was clearly the looser.  I hate to say it, but the man is done.  At some point his name will be a footnote in history along with Fred Thompson as candidates who where blips on the screen and quickly dissolved away never to be heard from again…

Gingrich and Santorum were also turned in good debate performances but did little to leap them into the top tier.  While I love Ron Paul, I don’t think it was a huge night for him.  He knocked it out the park every time the conversation even mentioned the Fed, but apart from one or two good lines, his performance was forgettable.  Then there was Bauchman.  Is anyone else tired of hearing her using her foster children for political gain?  It grew tired very quickly – now its just insulting.  Huntsman – was he even there?  Did anyone seem him after he made that joke about not bringing up religion?

Well, here’s what you’ve all been waiting for – my live debate tweets.  Here there are in descending order. 

Some are still upset at the booing of a homosexual soldier in the last debate as hecklers shout. Candidates ignore it again. #econdebate

Somebody should mention that our definition of poverty is way off and out of step with reality. #econdebate

“You ought to be able to afford something in order to buy something.” – @newtgingrich Sad 2 say, this is a needed reminder #econdebate

Does anyone else hear the wishpering bewteen candidates? Sounds freaky. #econdebate

Ok, so ever since @ericjodom mentioned it, @RonPaul ‘s eye brows are freaking me out! #econdebate

I miss @GovGaryJohnson in this debate – he deserves a spot if @JonHuntsman and @RickSantorum do. #econdebate

@THEHermanCain successfully slaps away an attack on 999 from @RickSantorum and makes his arrogant question seem silly. #econdebate

I was just waiting for @MicheleBachmann to work in all the foster kids she has taken in… #econdebate

@TeamRickPerry goes after @MittRomney – no shock! #econdebate

“You gotta be careful about stuff you get off the internet.” – @THEHermanCain to @RonPaul

Not surprisingly, @RonPaul takes on @THEHermanCain concerning the fed. #econdebate

Clearly everyone is going after @MittRomney proving his frontrunner status. This actually good for him to take these attacks. #econdebate

@JonHuntsman jokes with @MittRomney about not asking religous questions. #econdebate

@THEHermanCain nails @MittRomney by asking him if he can name all 59 points to his economic plan. No, he couldn’t. Point Cain #econdebate

@TeamRickPerry says he turned republican at a younger age than Ronald Reagan did. I Knew Ronald Reagan.. UR no Ronald Reagan! #econdebate

@MicheleBachmann attacks @TeamRickPerry as an Obama Democrat.

Ok, so I’ve just missed a huge section of this debate – sometimes life gets in the way of politics… #econdebate

@MittRomney just said my 3 favorite words – cut, cap and balance

@TeamRickPerry is absolutely correct – we need a balanced budget amendment, trading cuts for revenue is never going to happen. #econdebate

@JonHuntsman attacks 999 as a pizza price – @THEHermanCain fires right back – this man deserves to be in the top tier!!! #econdebate

Bernanke and Dodd being arrested? Interesting thought. Fantasy but not reality. But oh what a fantasy! #econdebate

Why are they zooming in on @TeamRickPerry @newtgingrich – oh talking about preventative medicine… Like vaccines… #econdebate

@RickSantorum says PA not TX is the gas capital of USA – @JonHuntsman correctly suggests DC produces more gas than anyone else #econdebate

We all laugh when @RonPaul gets a question about the fed – a softball for the only one who’s been speaking consistently on it. #econdebate

@newtgingrich calls for fed chair and treasury second to be fired. Amen #econdebate

@TeamRickPerry draws first blood claiming @MittRomney had six years to develop his plan. Ouch. #econdebate

Herman Cain gets the first question – this debate is his big chance to capitalize on his new top-tier status #econdebate

Perry looks presidential. #econdebate

Gotta admit, not sure how interested I am in this debate. #econdebate

The Podcast is Coming

The very first Here I Stand Podcast is on its way.  I will attempt to post one podcast every other week or so.  I would love to do another weekly podcast, but my schedule will simply not allow for it. 

 This podcast will cover the same themes as this blog does – whatever happens to be in my mind at the moment!  The official podcast tagline will be “Covering all things spiritual, political, and topical.”  Bascially, whatever I feel like posting, will be posted.  Many of the podcasts will be my own messages preached in various locations.  I will also be posting some never-before-heard Delve into the Depths and Fundamental Persepective interviews.  Those will be interesting.  Throw in some politics and you have my podcast!

Our first podcast will feature a short conversation I had with Dr. Bob Jones III concerning his endorsement of Mitt Romney.  I think you will find that interesting.

Tom, Say it Ain’t So!

I just learned yesterday that Congressman Tom Tancredo has issued a challenge to Mitt Romney.  If The Rockies win the World Series, Romney drops out of the race for President.  If the Redsox win, Tancredo drops out. 

 As a Boston Redsox fan, Tom, I ask you – don’t do it!  I feel so torn.  Must I leave Redsox nation for the sake of the entire nation?  Why must you make me choose.  Besides that, there is no way the Rockies can win!  Tom, take it back!

Of course, Mitt Romney being a good politician, simply ignored the challenge.  I hope that means Tom stay in, we need him too much!

Here is the official Team Tancredo press release:

Tancredo Issues Challenge to Romney

CONTACT: Alan Moore
October 24, 2007
f: 703-255-9875

Tancredo Issues Challenge to Romney
Rockies vs. Red Sox, loser drops out

(Washington, D.C.) – Presidential candidate Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-CO) today issued a challenge to fellow candidate Gov. Mitt Romney today.

“Governor Romney, I propose we make a bet on the World Series.” Tancredo said. “I will agree to drop out of the race if the Red Sox win on the condition that you will agree to drop out if the Rockies win.”

This comes a week after Tancredo challenged Romney to a trap shooting contest in New Hampshire, with the loser to drop out of the race.

The Spirit of Fear and the Politics that Go with it

For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.   – II Timothy 1:7

Earlier this week, Dr. Bob Jones, III officially endorsed Mitt Romney for President.  Quite frankly, I am shocked and appalled at this decision.  I have the utmost respect for Dr. Bob and for Bob Jones University.  However, this endorsement is irresponsible. 

I think what I find most shocking about this is the reasoning behind it.  Dr. Bob said, “This is all about beating Hillary.”  He went on to add, “If it turns out to be Guiliani and Hillary, we’ve got two pro- choice candidates, and that would be a disaster.” 

This is what I call the politics of fear.  Because we fear a supposedly evil person, we will stop at nothing, including the compromise of principles and conviction, to prevent their election.  Often times, we decide to back a lesser evil person who we deem not as bad.  Of course the problem is that the lesser of two evils is still evil. 

That is what Dr. Jones is clearly guilty of.  He deems Hillary and Rudy to be so scary, he has decided to back a flip-flopping cultist responsible for legalizing homosexual marriage here in Massachusetts.  Is this really something the Lord would want us to do?

The Bible tells us that we have not been given a spirit of fear.  But, one thing we have been given is a sound mind.  A sound mind does not make decisions based on fear or polling data, but on prayer, Biblical principal and Scriptural convictions.  A sound mind is not easily led astray by anxious worry neither is it bullied into bad decisions by bad situations.

As Christians, we do what is right and leave the consequences to our sovereign, Almighty Lord.  We are not to do what is right only when we think the consequences will be favorable.  We do not know how the Lord will work. 

People think the election of Hillary Clinton would be the worst thing ever to happen.  Therefore drastic measures, even the abandonment of principle, are in order.  Let us remember that Christianity flourished under the persecution of evil Roman dictators such as Nero.  God Himself declares in Romans 9 that He raised up the wicked Egyptian Pharaoh for His purpose.  God is not limited or His work thwarted by any human ruler.  “The king‘s heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.” – Proverbs 21:1. 

Of course, another thing we must consider is the false dilemma Jones creates in the first place.  Jones suggested we would only be limited two one of two options – Rudy or Hillary.  That is not a true dilema.  There will be other candidates on the ballot.  Yet, again, because Jones deems these to be the only credible candidates, they are the only options available. 

I am a member of the Constitution Party, America’s third largest party. Our motto is “principles over politics.”   We will offer a true alternative to either party’s candidates.  We are a party that is 100% pro-life, against gay marriage or civil unions, and will fight for the freedoms and liberties that we as Christians hold dear.  On top of that, we are the only party still dedicated to upholding the Constitution. 

It has been my experience that most Christians agree with our party in principle, but still feel the need to vote for one of the major party candidates.  This is out of pragmatism, not principle.  Again, the politics of fear. 

Notice that Dr. Bob does not even take third parties into consideration, or even one of the other Republican candidates such as Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter or Mike Huckabee.  We often complain about the lack of choices we have in elections like this.  Yet, we have exactly the political atmosphere we have voted for.  As long as Christians are willing to vote for pro-abortion candidates, that’s what we will get.  As long as we continue to reject pro-life, Christian candidates(because they are third party or not top-tier), the less we will have to choose from.  We have what we vote for. 

Many people wish Republicans would start acting like Republicans.  I just wish Christians would start voting like Christians.  If we would simply start to vote our consciences, we would see a dramatically different political landscape. 

As one who has run for office (with the Constitution Party), I can testify that there are more people out there that believe as we do than most people are aware of.  We often assume that in places such as liberal New England, Christians cannot make a difference.  But as one who has been out there on the campaign trail, I know that not to be true.  Remember, that in many elections, most people do not vote.  In my election, which received a lot of press attention, only 30% of voters came out to the polls.  That means we still do not know what 70% of voters actually believe.  What I came to see was that many people agreed with my views, yet simply believed nothing could be done and stayed home on election day.   Those who did cast their votes yet were too willing to waste their votes on candidates who did not stand where they would stand.  Yes, we can make a difference – if we are willing to pay the price to do that.

However, even if the Christian vote meant nothing, Christians still ought to vote like Christians.  It is the right thing to do regardless of the perception or result.   I wish someone like Dr. Bob Jones, III would take a stand for righteousness and not for pragmatism. 

Bob Jones Dances With The Devil

Chuck Baldwin
October 19, 2007

The Washington Times carried an Associated Press report entitled, “Bob Jones III endorses Mitt Romney.” Here are excerpts:

“Bob Jones III, chancellor of the Christian fundamentalist school named for his family, is endorsing Republican Mitt Romney for president.

“Romney’s campaign confirmed Jones’ endorsement today.”

According to the report Jones told a Greenville, South Carolina newspaper that “supporting Romney is critical to make sure former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani doesn’t win the GOP nomination and that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton doesn’t win the election.

“‘If it turns out to be Giuliani and Hillary, we’ve got two pro-choice candidates, and that would be a disaster,’ Jones told The Greenville News for a story on its Web site today.”

Jones also said, “As a Christian I am completely opposed to the doctrines of Mormonism. But I’m not voting for a preacher. I’m voting for a president. It boils down to who can best represent conservative American beliefs, not religious beliefs.”

Bob Jones’ endorsement of the former Massachusetts governor illustrates just how low the Religious Right will go in compromising bedrock principle for the sake of political expediency. Jones says he is supporting Romney so as to help defeat Rudy Giuliani. I very much want to see what Jones will do if and when Giuliani gets the Republican nomination. I would anticipate that he will continue to follow his current modus operandi and support Giuliani, because he would then say that Giuliani is the “lesser of two evils.”

Why do I say that? Because Jones is already demonstrating that he will support one liberal over another liberal. Mitt Romney is not a conservative–not by any measure of the word. And I am confident that Bob Jones knows it.

Romney’s entire political career has been built by catering to the eastern liberal establishment. That he is now attempting to remake himself into a conservative (and that Christian “leaders” are willing to assist this façade) is both laughable and detestable!

In his endorsement announcement, Jones said, “If it turns out to be a Giuliani and Hillary, we’ve got two pro-choice candidates, and that would be a disaster.”


Where has Bob Jones III been for the last two decades? Mitt Romney has been a consistent pro-abortion politician since entering public life. His track record is there for anyone who wants to examine it. Here are a few facts Dr. Bob should have looked at before he embarrassed himself and Bob Jones University with this stupidly naïve endorsement.

According to one well-researched account, “Mitt Romney has a long history of supporting pro-abortion candidates and causes, and aggressively sought the support and endorsement of groups such as NARAL and Planned Parenthood. Indeed, Romney is still listed today as a member of the Republican Main Street Partnership, a group supported by Billionaire leftist George Soros dedicated to shifting the GOP leftward on social issues such as abortion rights and stem cell research.

“Romney also has a history of assisting the careers of other prominent pro-abortion politicians. In the 1992 presidential race, Romney endorsed and voted for pro-abortion liberal Democrat Paul Tsongas in the Democratic primary and just three years ago endorsed and made a television ad for Democrat Salt Lake City mayor Rocky Anderson, a former Planned Parenthood attorney.

“As Governor, he issued state proclamations honoring ‘Right to Privacy Day’ which until 2005, specifically referenced the Roe vs. Wade case.

“Romney repeatedly took extreme stances on abortion throughout his career and consistently made statements such as this one: ‘I believe that Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it . . .'”

“There simply is no doubt that Romney was one of the most pro-abortion Republican office holders in the country.”

See the full report at: http://www.massresistance.org/romney/prolife.html

As to the issue of “gay rights,” Mitt Romney’s record is equally clear. He has consistently facilitated the radical homosexual agenda.

According to a World Net Daily report, “A website paid for and authorized by the Massachusetts Democratic Party has posted a picture of a flier reportedly passed out at a 2002 ‘gay pride’ event by then-gubernatorial candidate Mitt Romney expressing support for homosexual rights.

“The flier, on red paper, claims to have been paid for by ‘the Romney for Governor Committee and Kerry Murphy Healey Committee’ and reads, ‘Mitt and Kerry wish you a great Pride Weekend.'”

See the full report at: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57786

For Mitt Romney to now say that he “took every conceivable step within the law to defend traditional marriage” is just so much hooey, according to my good friend, Harvard law school graduate and founding dean of Regent University’s law school, Herb Titus. Read the report at: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56674

On the subject of gun control, Mitt Romney promised that he would not lift a finger to “chip away” at the gun laws in Massachusetts–a state that has some of the most draconian gun restrictions in the country.

As recently as 2002, Mitt Romney said, “We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them.”

For the “skinny” on Mitt Romney’s leftist anti-gun record, see the Gun Owners of America’s report at: http://gunowners.org/pres08/romney.htm

For a look at Romney’s record on illegal immigration, read this: http://www.vdare.com/burns/070809_romney.htm

Obviously, Mitt Romney is a chameleon who will say anything to anybody in order to get elected. He has flipped and flopped more than John Kerry ever dreamed about. Only an idiot would believe anything this man says. For a very revealing look at Romney’s two-faced, double-talk, go here: http://www.romneyfacts.com/redblue.php

Thankfully, not everyone within the Religious Right has been duped by Mitt Romney. Janet Folger recently wrote the following about the chameleon.

“And then there’s Mitt Romney, making a convenient flip from his ardent pro-abortion stance just in time to run for president. It just seems to me that if you really come to the realization that dismembering children is not good public policy, you’d remember not to FUND it with taxpayer dollars in your state health-care plan . . . after such a conversion. Oh yeah, suddenly he’s pro-marriage, too. So why did Romney publicly beat up on pro-marriage activist Brian Camenker last month? It that’s how he treats people on our side of the issue, that doesn’t bode well for future White House relations. And finally, mandating that homosexual ‘marriage licenses’ be issued without any change in the law requiring it (in direct violation of the Massachusetts State Constitution) isn’t very convincing, either.”

Romney has not fooled World Net Daily editor Joseph Farah, either. Here is what Farah said about Mitt Romney:

“Don’t be fooled by this political chameleon, this charlatan, this pretender to the throne. He’s as phone as a three-dollar campaign promise.”

See Farah’s complete column at: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56637

Folks, here is the problem: Christian leaders such as Bob Jones III have succumbed to the temptation to become glorified politicians. They surrendered their convictions thirty years ago when the old Moral Majority married the Republican Party. Ever since then, Republican politicians have made a living by making dupes out of the so-called Religious Right.

There is another problem: our so-called Christian “leaders” crave attention. They desire notoriety. They are obsessed with having access to power. They want a seat at the king’s table. As a result, they are willing to believe the lies being told them by shrewd and cunning frauds–as long as they are Republicans, of course. As Doc Holliday said in the movie Tombstone, “My hypocrisy only goes so far.”

Accordingly, our Christian “leaders” will never promote a man’s candidacy on principle alone. They want to pick a “winner.” They want to be on the good side of the last guy standing–even if that guy is a no-good, compromising louse.

In addition, there is yet another problem: for the most part, our illustrious Christian “leaders” are willfully ignorant of the importance of constitutional government. They either don’t understand it, or don’t want to understand it. Whatever the reason, issues such as national independence and sovereignty and globalism do not even show up on their radar. I’m not sure they have even read the Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. If they have, they sure don’t act like it.

Dr. Bob apparently does not realize that when our President takes his oath of office, he does not promise to “represent conservative American beliefs.” Instead, he promises to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

I wonder, too, if Dr. Bob has ever heard of the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP). Has he ever heard of the NAFTA superhighway? Does he have a clue about the globalist agenda of the Council on Foreign Relations? Does he even realize that there is a burgeoning North American Union developing? I doubt it. I further doubt that he has read Dr. Jerry Corsi’s book “The Late Great USA.”

Find it here: http://shop.wnd.com/store/item.asp?DEPARTMENT_ID=6&SUBDEPARTMENT_ID=23&ITEM_ID=2116

In his endorsement of Mitt Romney, Dr. Bob Jones III also said, “This all about beating Hillary.” Oh, really?

Since when does a preacher of the Gospel and Christian educator put electing charlatans (of any political party) ahead of standing for truth and doing right? And this leads to another problem.

Our Christian “leaders” have forgotten what it means to stand on principle. They have gotten so bogged down in politics that they have forsaken the divine call to be watchmen on the wall. If Bob Jones III would be as concerned about standing for truth and principle as he is about “beating Hillary,” many others might be encouraged to do the same–and we preachers might actually be able to have a positive impact upon the direction of our country. As it is, our Christian “leaders” are not only not helping to lead our nation out of its current mess, they are actually contributing to the problem, as Dr. Jones’ endorsement of Mitt Romney illustrates.

Furthermore, what is Dr. Bob going to say to the students and graduates of Bob Jones University? How can he justify all the years of “separation” preaching that BJU is known for? Where is his consistency? How can he now turn around and convince his students that all those Christian “standards” regarding the fellowship of light with darkness, reproving evil, contending for the faith, etc., apply only to areas outside politics? Obviously, BJU students now know that when it comes to politics, we can cast all those principles aside. It makes one wonder what other areas of the Christian life are exempt from Biblical principles. Maybe our business life? But that’s a subject for another day.

I believe Dr. Bob’s grandfather must be turning over in his grave. I don’t know how many times I have heard the “big” fundamentalist preachers quote Dr. Bob Jones, Sr. as saying, “Do right if the stars fall!”

Instead of doing right, however, Bob Jones III would rather dance with the devil.

© Chuck Baldwin

Chuck Baldwin is Founder-Pastor of Crossroads Baptist Church in Pensacola, Florida. Dr. Baldwin is also the host of a lively, hard-hitting syndicated radio talk show  “Chuck Baldwin Live” This is a daily, one hour long call-in show.

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